I done many records with wanabees saying that the could play better, record better. Many complex questions are answered poorly, but great answers too. These priceless humans here must be preserved with vigilance and tolerance because, after all, they are mates too (but some repeat the error again and again.)Įveryone one have problems, some sacrifice a lot for music, but its important not enter in this kind of game.Įveryone can make mistakes? Sure, but reapeating is boring and can be an ancestral problem that we can healp just as an example. The great differecial of this forum are the helpfull mates that are always ansious to help P.S.: On a side note I must reveal that I've never used Trilian because it was not possible to control the hand position on the fretboard (or at least I didn't find any way to) which to me is "critical" in a bass sound.
P.S.: On a side note I must reveal that I've never used Trillian because it was not possible to control the hand position on the fretboard (or at least I didn't find any way to) which to me is "critical" in a bass sound. When I insert this amp I rarely use any other effects outside the compressor. Sometimes I may need not such a fat sound and as for now the tool I use the most to morph the bass sound is Overloud Mark Studio 2. I don't have much problem placing the bass in the mix between drums, brass, organs or any other keyboards. On the MMBass I often use the DI (reducing the volume) with a convolution reverb (picking an IR of a room with a wooden floor), the onboard EQ of the bass, some panning and a soft knee compressor where I can control the release trail. The FX used are different ones and usually relate to the track and the role the bass is going to play in them. That being said the basses I use the most are mainly Scarbee MM Bass (DI), PreBass (Di), OTS Iconic Bass Jaco for jazz-funk-fusion stuff (the stuff that I usually do), and the Scarbee Rickenbacker for more aggressive rock-progressive-metal stuff (don't laugh at me ). You also need something like Melda Productions' Auto-Align to get the two signals in proper phase before trying to mix them.īefore I write anything I must declare that I am not a bassist. Whatever the intent was, the Efimov library is a lot closer in tone to an actual DI'd bass, so you can mix it better with an amped signal.ĭefinitely try blending DI and amp signals (on each of their own mono audio tracks). It might work for a funk, pop or even a jazz tune, but for rock, it just doesn't sit too well. The DI version on its own doesn't seem to hold the mix together on its own (running a compressor, EQ or bass-enhancement plug seems to bring out the wrong bass frequencies that have a reverse effect on the mix - the bass stands out way too far unless you push it too far back in the mix), and blending it with an amped version and phase corrected, it accentuates the wrong frequencies. Since they were both recorded properly, you can run them through an amp sim and get a lot more realistic sound that sits in the mix better.Ĭlick to expand.I don't know if it's that they sound "muddy" so much as they might have too much of the wrong bass frequency in them, in A/B comparisons I've done between a commercial bass track and the way they sound in a mix. It's probably the best picked bass library on the market. but I also have Prominy's Yamaha SR5 Rock Bass, which is a fairly big library, but worth it. I'd get the Modern Bass, also, which I'm sure works equally as well. You can even pull off decent slaps and FX. It even has a built-in amp sim, and I believe it's a mix of direct and amped signal - not that I'd use Kontakt's onboard effects! Plus, it has mondo articulations that Pre-Bass and Jay-Bass lack. Maybe they work better on pop or jazz music? Now, I use Ilya Efimov Classic Bass, which is an older P-Bass, and it sounds exactly like a real DI'd bass. I suspect both libraries were intended to be used as funk basses, which isn't my normal style of music, and lack a decent "hard rock" sound. I think they were recorded with the wrong bass frequencies, or through a too-tubby pre-amp, but they're too bass-heavy to be amped properly (I combine DI and amp signal blended together, then phase align them during mixing) and none of the EQs or stuff like Waves' all-in-one plugs (CLA, Eddie Kramer, Maserati, etc.) can get rid of the unnatural sound, or it makes things worse. I used to use Scarbee Pre-Bass (DI version) and I've used Jay-Bass DI (which is set up really weird, by the way I've also had to combine the "fingered" with "slapped" instruments to keep it sounding consistent during slaps) and, aside from the appalling lack of articulations on both, they don't sit too well in the mix.